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The Top Ten Reasons Marijuana Should Be = Legal

High = Times.=20 Posted September=20 1, 2007.


Prohibition hasn't stopped the use and domestic = production=20 of marijuana -- it's time everyone faced this.
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Editor's note: There are millions of regular pot smokers in = America=20 and millions more infrequent smokers. Smoking pot clearly has far fewer=20 dangerous and hazardous effects on society than legal drugs such as = alcohol.=20 Here is High Times's top 10 reasons that marijuana should be = legal, part=20 of its 420=20 Campaign legalization strategy.

10. Prohibition has failed to control the use and domestic production = of=20 marijuana. The government has tried to use criminal penalties to prevent = marijuana use for over 75 years and yet: marijuana is now used by over = 25=20 million people annually, cannabis is currently the largest cash crop in = the=20 United States, and marijuana is grown all over the planet. Claims that = marijuana=20 prohibition is a successful policy are ludicrous and unsupported by the = facts,=20 and the idea that marijuana will soon be eliminated from America and the = rest of=20 the world is a ridiculous fantasy.

9. Arrests for marijuana possession disproportionately affect blacks = and=20 Hispanics and reinforce the perception that law enforcement is biased = and=20 prejudiced against minorities. African-Americans account for = approximately 13%=20 of the population of the United States and about 13.5% of annual = marijuana=20 users, however, blacks also account for 26% of all marijuana arrests. = Recent=20 studies have demonstrated that blacks and Hispanics account for the = majority of=20 marijuana possession arrests in New York City, primarily for smoking = marijuana=20 in public view. Law enforcement has failed to demonstrate that marijuana = laws=20 can be enforced fairly without regard to race; far too often minorities = are=20 arrested for marijuana use while white/non-Hispanic Americans face a = much lower=20 risk of arrest.

8. A regulated, legal market in marijuana would reduce marijuana = sales and=20 use among teenagers, as well as reduce their exposure to other drugs in = the=20 illegal market. The illegality of marijuana makes it more valuable than = if it=20 were legal, providing opportunities for teenagers to make easy money = selling it=20 to their friends. If the excessive profits for marijuana sales were = ended=20 through legalization there would be less incentive for teens to sell it = to one=20 another. Teenage use of alcohol and tobacco remain serious public health = problems even though those drugs are legal for adults, however, the = availability=20 of alcohol and tobacco is not made even more widespread by providing = kids with=20 economic incentives to sell either one to their friends and peers.

7. Legalized marijuana would reduce the flow of money from the = American=20 economy to international criminal gangs. Marijuana's illegality makes = foreign=20 cultivation and smuggling to the United States extremely profitable, = sending=20 billions of dollars overseas in an underground economy while diverting = funds=20 from productive economic development.

6. Marijuana's legalization would simplify the development of hemp as = a=20 valuable and diverse agricultural crop in the United States, including = its=20 development as a new bio-fuel to reduce carbon emissions. Canada and = European=20 countries have managed to support legal hemp cultivation without = legalizing=20 marijuana, but in the United States opposition to legal marijuana = remains the=20 biggest obstacle to development of industrial hemp as a valuable = agricultural=20 commodity. As US energy policy continues to embrace and promote the = development=20 of bio-fuels as an alternative to oil dependency and a way to reduce = carbon=20 emissions, it is all the more important to develop industrial hemp as a = bio-fuel=20 source - especially since use of hemp stalks as a fuel source will not = increase=20 demand and prices for food, such as corn. Legalization of marijuana will = greatly=20 simplify the regulatory burden on prospective hemp cultivation in the = United=20 States.

5. Prohibition is based on lies and disinformation. Justification of=20 marijuana's illegality increasingly requires distortions and selective = uses of=20 the scientific record, causing harm to the credibility of teachers, law=20 enforcement officials, and scientists throughout the country. The = dangers of=20 marijuana use have been exaggerated for almost a century and the modern=20 scientific record does not support the reefer madness predictions of the = past=20 and present. Many claims of marijuana's danger are based on old 20th = century=20 prejudices that originated in a time when science was uncertain how = marijuana=20 produced its characteristic effects. Since the cannabinoid receptor = system was=20 discovered in the late 1980s these hysterical concerns about marijuana's = dangerousness have not been confirmed with modern research. Everyone = agrees that=20 marijuana, or any other drug use such as alcohol or tobacco use, is not = for=20 children. Nonetheless, adults have demonstrated over the last several = decades=20 that marijuana can be used moderately without harmful impacts to the = individual=20 or society.

4. Marijuana is not a lethal drug and is safer than alcohol. It is=20 established scientific fact that marijuana is not toxic to humans; = marijuana=20 overdoses are nearly impossible, and marijuana is not nearly as = addictive as=20 alcohol or tobacco. It is unfair and unjust to treat marijuana users = more=20 harshly under the law than the users of alcohol or tobacco.

3. Marijuana is too expensive for our justice system and should = instead be=20 taxed to support beneficial government programs. Law enforcement has = more=20 important responsibilities than arresting 750,000 individuals a year for = marijuana possession, especially given the additional justice costs of = disposing=20 of each of these cases. Marijuana arrests make justice more expensive = and less=20 efficient in the United States, wasting jail space, clogging up court = systems,=20 and diverting time of police, attorneys, judges, and corrections = officials away=20 from violent crime, the sexual abuse of children, and terrorism. = Furthermore,=20 taxation of marijuana can provide needed and generous funding of many = important=20 criminal justice and social programs.

2. Marijuana use has positive attributes, such as its medical value = and use=20 as a recreational drug with relatively mild side effects. Many people = use=20 marijuana because they have made an informed decision that it is good = for them,=20 especially Americans suffering from a variety of serious ailments. = Marijuana=20 provides relief from pain, nausea, spasticity, and other symptoms for = many=20 individuals who have not been treated successfully with conventional=20 medications. Many American adults prefer marijuana to the use of alcohol = as a=20 mild and moderate way to relax. Americans use marijuana because they = choose to,=20 and one of the reasons for that choice is their personal observation = that the=20 drug has a relatively low dependence liability and easy-to-manage side = effects.=20 Most marijuana users develop tolerance to many of marijuana's side = effects, and=20 those who do not, choose to stop using the drug. Marijuana use is the = result of=20 informed consent in which individuals have decided that the benefits of = use=20 outweigh the risks, especially since, for most Americans, the greatest = risk of=20 using marijuana is the relatively low risk of arrest.

1. Marijuana users are determined to stand up to the injustice of = marijuana=20 probation and accomplish legalization, no matter how long or what it = takes to=20 succeed. Despite the threat of arrests and a variety of other = punishments and=20 sanctions marijuana users have persisted in their support for = legalization for=20 over a generation. They refuse to give up their long quest for justice = because=20 they believe in the fundamental values of American society. Prohibition = has=20 failed to silence marijuana users despite its best attempts over the = last=20 generation. The issue of marijuana's legalization is a persistent issue = that,=20 like marijuana, will simply not go away. Marijuana will be legalized = because=20 marijuana users will continue to fight for it until they succeed.

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Just a little...
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Posted by: chomsky on = Sep 1, 2007=20 1:20 AM   
Current rating:=20 5    [1 =3D poor; 5 =3D=20 excellent]
If you believe Mike = Ruppert (ex DEA=20 officer) in "THE TRUTH & LIES OF=20 = 9/11"
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D8797525979024486145 =
a=20 huge part of the US economy is supported by the traffic of = drugs...=20 Declaring something illegal, makes it rare, which makes it = expensive,=20 which makes it very profitable...

As an end note, since the = poppy=20 production in Afghanistan is doing great (thanks to NATO's=20 invasion):
http://www.spie REMOVEME=20 gel.de/international/world/0,1518,473933,00.html

PS: The 60 = characters word limit is not very practical for URLs...

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=C2=BB=20 RE: Just a little... Posted by:=20 Doubtom
=C2=BB=20 Cannabis production should be local (microbrewery/winery = model)=20 Posted by: thoughtcriminal
=C2=BB=20 RE: Just a little... Posted by:=20 govindas
=C2=BB=20 RE: Just a little... Posted by:=20 govindas
Have A Marijuana
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Posted by: Tom Degan on = Sep 1,=20 2007 2:22 AM   
Current rating:=20 5    [1 =3D poor; 5 =3D=20 excellent]
I usually read every = AlterNet piece=20 before I post a comment. No need to this time (although I will,=20 eventually). The fact is: I cannot believe that we're still having = this=20 argument in 2007! We all have known at least 100 people in our = lives who=20 have died as the result of too much alcohol or nicotine = cunsumption. Tell=20 you what: I'll give anyone here $1000 if they can come up with the = name of=20 even one person who has died as the result of too much pot. = Not=20 only do I not know of such a case, I'm not aware of it happening = in all=20 recorded human history! What's wrong with these people?

Tom = Degan
Goshen, NY
"The=20 Rant" by Tom Degan

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=C2=BB=20 RE: Have A Marijuana Posted by:=20 colinmeister
=C2=BB=20 RE: Have A Marijuana Posted by:=20 VannaLaRoche
=C2=BB=20 RE: Have A Marijuana Posted by: AMERICAN = VETERAN
=C2=BB=20 RE: Have A Marijuana Posted by:=20 Knowmad
=C2=BB=20 RE: Have A Marijuana Posted by: Solar=20 Wind
=C2=BB=20 RE: Have A Marijuana Posted by: AMERICAN = VETERAN
=C2=BB=20 RE: Have A Marijuana Posted by:=20 lib3288
=C2=BB=20 weak argument though colinmeister Posted = by:=20 schokoprinz
=C2=BB=20 weak argument though colinmeister Posted = by:=20 schokoprinz
=C2=BB=20 RE: Have A Marijuana Posted by:=20 Conservasaurus
=C2=BB=20 RE: Sticking to the facts... Posted by:=20 jimidee
=C2=BB=20 RE: Sticking to the facts... Posted by:=20 Conservasaurus
=C2=BB=20 RE: My facts ARE the facts, not myths. Posted by:=20 jimidee
=C2=BB=20 RE: My facts ARE the facts, not myths. Posted by:=20 Conservasaurus
=C2=BB=20 RE: My facts ARE the facts, not myths. Posted by:=20 jimidee
=C2=BB=20 RE: My facts ARE the facts, not myths. Posted by:=20 Conservasaurus
=C2=BB=20 RE: My facts ARE the facts, not myths. Posted by:=20 jimidee
=C2=BB=20 RE: My facts ARE the facts, not myths. Posted by:=20 sterlingdave54
=C2=BB=20 RE: Sticking to the facts... Posted by:=20 peacefullaim
=C2=BB=20 RE: Sticking to the facts...kids selling dope... Posted by: jimidee
=C2=BB=20 RE: Sticking to the facts...kids selling dope... Posted by: anonymous black = writer
=C2=BB=20 RE: Have A Marijuana Posted by:=20 Doubtom
=C2=BB=20 Personally, I like Tom's comments and his link. Posted by: thoughtcriminal
=C2=BB=20 RE: Have A Marijuana Posted by:=20 Ras3hilton
=C2=BB=20 RE: Have A Marijuana Posted by:=20 MT512
=C2=BB=20 RE: Have A Marijuana Posted by:=20 Conservasaurus
=C2=BB=20 Thank you Conservasaurus! Posted by: Tom = Degan
=C2=BB=20 RE: Have A Marijuana Posted by:=20 thinkverybig
=C2=BB=20 RE: Have A Marijuana Posted by: Tom=20 Degan
Another Reason to Support = Kucinich
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Posted by: EKSwitaj on = Sep 1, 2007=20 4:01 AM   
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Dennis Kucinich supports = the=20 decriminalization of marijuana. For more information, see http://www2.= kucinich.us/issues/marijuana_decrim.php.=20

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=C2=BB=20 RE: Another Reason to Support Kucinich Posted by:=20 soulrebeljc
=C2=BB=20 RE: Another Reason to Support Kucinich Posted by:=20 Doubtom
Pot used to be legal...
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Posted by: motamanx on = Sep 1, 2007=20 4:09 AM   
Current rating:=20 5    [1 =3D poor; 5 =3D=20 excellent]
...until Nylon rope was=20 invented.

Know your history.
Re-legalize.

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=C2=BB=20 It was a Three-Way Conspiracy to Outlaw "Marihuana" Posted by: thornwolf
But ...
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Posted by: John Annis on = Sep 1,=20 2007 4:30 AM   
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For starters I fully = support the=20 decriminalisation of all drugs; prohibition doesn't work, and can = never=20 work. It's just a way of financing police and other USG=20 repression.

Having said that, marijuana these days is a = very=20 different beast from what it was 30 years ago. Selective breeding = and the=20 extensive use of hydroponics have produced skunk, which is many = times=20 stronger than old-fashioned Mary J - in fact some strains are = stronger=20 than cocaine.

It's been demonstrated that skunk usage can = lead=20 easily and quickly to extreme psychotic reactions, and if you're = going to=20 attempt to write an even-handed article on marijuana usage you = have to=20 include comment on the downside of these genetically enhanced = versions.=20

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=C2=BB=20 RE: But ... Posted by:=20 ProgressiveManiac
=C2=BB=20 RE: But ... Posted by:=20 AussieGeoff
=C2=BB=20 RE: But ... Posted by:=20 VannaLaRoche
=C2=BB=20 In Other Words... Posted by:=20 pdxstudent
=C2=BB=20 If that's true about psychotic reactions... Posted=20 by: thornwolf
=C2=BB=20 RE: If that's true about psychotic reactions... Posted by: MT512
=C2=BB=20 Psycotic reactions? Rx drugs & school shootings. Check out the = school Posted by: = SamFox
=C2=BB=20 Pernicious bullshit... Posted by:=20 sausage
=C2=BB=20 RE: But ... Posted by:=20 greenman
=C2=BB=20 RE: But ... Posted by:=20 clvngodess
=C2=BB=20 Oh no, someone made stronger marijuana, be afraid! Posted by: OneAcre2012
=C2=BB=20 RE: But ... Posted by:=20 bamage
=C2=BB=20 RE: But ... Posted by:=20 Lauren
=C2=BB=20 RE: But ... Posted by:=20 VannaLaRoche
=C2=BB=20 RE: But ... Posted by: John=20 Annis
=C2=BB=20 RE: But ... Posted by:=20 ken_sailor
=C2=BB=20 No cause and effect in that research. Posted by:=20 heid
=C2=BB=20 RE: You are still talking like an expert with NO personal = experience OR=20 data... Posted by: = jimidee
=C2=BB=20 "Some strains are stronger than cocaine???" - that's absolute BS! = (as is=20 the rest) Posted by:=20 thoughtcriminal
=C2=BB=20 RE: But ...Skunk is just a name to describe a distinct taste and=20 smell. Posted by: Johnny=20 Hempseed
=C2=BB=20 RE: But ... Posted by:=20 bornxeyed
=C2=BB=20 RE: But ... Posted by:=20 SatanicJamboree
=C2=BB=20 RE: But ... Posted by:=20 skydog
=C2=BB=20 RE: That is a WEAK argument...from a non-user obviously... = Posted by: jimidee
=C2=BB=20 Excellent critical thinking...Genetically modified Indica Pot is = causing=20 mental illness.... Posted by:=20 psychochurch
=C2=BB=20 RE: xcellent critical thinking...Genetically modified Indica Pot = is=20 causing mental illness.... Posted by:=20 Timba
=C2=BB=20 Comparison with cocaine? Posted by:=20 heid
=C2=BB=20 RE: But ...If you are worried about skunk, hold on Posted by: SamFox
=C2=BB=20 RE: But ... Posted by:=20 bex_ta
=C2=BB=20 RE: And you got your info where????? Posted by:=20 panama420
The ONLY Safe High
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Posted by: thornwolf on = Sep 1,=20 2007 5:10 AM   
Current rating:=20 5    [1 =3D poor; 5 =3D=20 excellent]
Marijuana should be legal = for many=20 reasons, but chief among them is the fact that marijuana is the = one=20 substance for which there is no consumable dose that will make one = unconscious, convulsive, comatose or dead. No other drug --=20 over-the-counter, prescription or otherwise -- can make that = claim.=20

Marijuana is the only safe drug. It alone will not make = one miss=20 work, have a hangover, deplete a bank account, desert a family, or = suffer=20 any of the ill effects of other substances. =

Constitutionally, the=20 federal government has no delegated power to regulate the = cultivation and=20 use of marijuana wholly within the borders of a state. A state = could=20 legally do that if the voters didn't object, but the federal = government=20 truly exceeds its legal reach by doing so. Eventually, it will be = brought=20 to task for this and made to desist. Marbury v Madison: a law = repugnant to=20 the Constitution is no law at all.

The Commerce Clause = delegates=20 to the federal government the power to regulate interstate = commerce=20 (economic activity between different states), not intrastate = commerce=20 (economic activity within the borders of any one state). The = Controlled=20 Substances Act and similar federal drug laws take their authority = from the=20 Commerce Clause -- the government acknowledges that. This is where = the=20 policy battle must be waged.

To that end, it is irrelevant = whether=20 marijuana has any medical or other value beyond the value ascribed = to it=20 by the people who use it for their own reasons. It is the Commerce = Clause=20 authority rug that must be pulled out from under federal marijuana = prohibition.

Even so, there is value in educating the = populace as=20 to the medical and other benefits of marijuana as public opinion = will have=20 an important role to play in legalization.

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=C2=BB=20 Agree on the drug, not on the Constitution Posted=20 by: brunowe
=C2=BB=20 Constitution and citrus Posted by:=20 bornxeyed
=C2=BB=20 RE: Constitution and citrus Posted by:=20 brunowe
=C2=BB=20 That's exactly what I'm talking about Posted by:=20 thornwolf
=C2=BB=20 RE: The ONLY Safe High Posted by:=20 Doubtom
=C2=BB=20 I was completely serious Posted by:=20 thornwolf
another environmental reason to = decriminalize=20 marijuana is that
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Posted by: Suzon on Sep = 1, 2007=20 5:18 AM   
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it is often grown inside = houses or=20 other buildings using massive amounts of electricity (an excessive = light=20 bill is often the giveaway).

Of course the (wealthy) = brewers and=20 distillers wouldn't want us to be able to grow our own = self-medication in=20 natural sunlight, would they?

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LeaveUsAlone
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Posted by: LeaveMeAlone = on Sep 1,=20 2007 6:04 AM   
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There is no chance for = leglization as=20 long as the Religious Right holds power in the U.S. The drug war = is a=20 religious war, the last Inquistion. For the fundamentalists, drugs = are not=20 chemicals that simply intoxicate people: They are demons that = enslave the=20 soul. The fundmentalists distinguish the illegal drugs from = alcohol and=20 tobacco by saying that the illegal drugs--in particular = marijuana--are=20 mind altering substances. Alcohol and tobacco may make you a = stumbling,=20 coughing wreck of a human being, but they do not affect your mind, = which=20 is to say your soul. And for them, the fundamentalists, saving the = soul is=20 far more important than saving the lives of the half million or so = who die=20 every year from alcohol and tobacco. And the drug war gives the=20 fundamentalists the pleasure in life they love the = most--inflicting pain=20 and punishment upon those that enjoy the sensual pleasures. = Nothing irks=20 the fundamentalists more than the knowledge that someone somewhere = is=20 enjoying the pleasures of the flesh--among them the pleasures of a = drug=20 high. And combine that with the possiblity that a hidden sinner = may be=20 enjoying a drug high while committing a sexual sin, and it's = simply more=20 than they can stand--PUNISHEMENT MUST BE IMPOSED! GOD DEMANDS = NOTHING=20 LESS! Over the centuries the fundamentalists have had taken from = them the=20 fun of burning witches and forcing loose women to wear a scarlett = "A" on=20 their dresses. Do not expect them to give up without a fight their = pleasure in imprisoning for decades those that want to get high on = something other than Jesus. And don't forget, if marijuana is = legalized,=20 white virgins will be drugged and seduced by black jazz musicians. = That=20 was the original excuse back in the thirties.

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=C2=BB=20 RE: LeaveUsAlone Posted by:=20 Lajaw
=C2=BB=20 RE: LeaveUsAlone Posted by:=20 LeaveMeAlone
=C2=BB=20 RE: LeaveUsAlone Posted by:=20 VannaLaRoche
=C2=BB=20 Jesus smoked (or maybe ate) cannabis - really, it's true - check = this=20 story: Posted by:=20 thoughtcriminal
=C2=BB=20 RE: Jesus smoked (or maybe ate) cannabis - really, it's true - = check this=20 story: Posted by: = Blade
=C2=BB=20 RE: LeaveUsAlone Posted by:=20 LooseyGoosey
=C2=BB=20 RE PUNISHMENT MUST BE IMPOSED Posted by: = panama420
Here's my list.....
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Posted by: jeffrey7 on = Sep 1, 2007=20 6:13 AM   
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May I humbly submit for = your=20 consideration my top ten reasons hemp should be legal.
1. = George=20 Bush
2. Dick Cheney
3. Global War on Humanity
4. Corrupt=20 Officals
5. Unhealthful Environment
6.Can't overdose on=20 it
7.Creates Peace
8.Quells violent tempers
9.Safer than=20 alchohol
10. The most theraputically active substance known to=20 man
We allow people to make their own wiskey for personal = use.The very=20 substance that's caused more premature deaths,rapes,murders,fights = and=20 unwanted pregnancies.
The only bad side effect from letting = those who=20 smoke to grow their own.....Sudden Outbreak of Peace.
Draft = Jeffrey7=20 for Prez

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=C2=BB=20 RE: Here's my list..... Posted by:=20 Lajaw
You don't know what you're talking = about=20
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Posted by: rancespergl = on Sep 1,=20 2007 6:40 AM   
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It's clear this person = doesn't know=20 the subject at hand. The "tell" that he's getting his information=20 second-hand is when he states that modern strains of marijuana can = be=20 "...stronger than cocaine."

It is not like cocaine so it = can't be=20 stronger or weaker than cocaine. It's not the same drug, nor in = the same=20 pharmacological family. It has different effects than cocaine and = is often=20 used in a different manner for this reason. That the government = has=20 classified it with narcotics goes not make it a narcotic nor are = it's=20 effects truly narcotic (soporific?).

On a recent television = news=20 report I saw a prosecutor attempt to discredit a witness who was a = pot=20 smoker by questioning what she "saw" on the night in question. = "You smoked=20 some pot" he said (I paraphrase) "Don't you see things when you're = on=20 pot?"

No one "sees things" when they're stoned on pot. = Though the=20 drug does make cheeseburgers look real good.

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=C2=BB=20 Sorry, misplaced reply to earlier thread Posted=20 by: rancespergl
=C2=BB=20 RE: Though the drug does make cheeseburgers look real = good. Posted by: jimidee
=C2=BB=20 RE: Though the drug does make cheeseburgers look real = good. Posted by: Fiona
=C2=BB=20 RE: Mind in the gutter? Posted by:=20 jimidee
Shouldn't High Times know better than = to call=20 it "marijuana"?
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Posted by: amphead on = Sep 1, 2007=20 6:41 AM   
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Regarding point number 9, = American is=20 the only country (well, besides Mexico) that calls cannabis, = marijuana.=20 That comes from the early 20th century around the time of "Reefer = Madness"=20 to connect the "dangers" of cannabis to Mexican immigrants and = stir up us=20 white folks against it. The same way heroin was used to = criminalize=20 African-Americans. It's a racist term and should not be used, = especially=20 by those seeking to legitimize weed.

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=C2=BB=20 Whoever rated me "1" care to comment or are you just being an = ass?=20 Posted by: amphead
=C2=BB=20 I gave you a 5, so now you're a 3. Kind of ridiculous, eh? = Posted by: Beck
=C2=BB=20 RE: I gave you a 5, so now you're a 3. Kind of ridiculous, = eh?=20 Posted by: amphead
=C2=BB=20 It's true: I quite enjoyed clicking "5." Posted=20 by: MadFlacc
=C2=BB=20 Here's a reference to what I'm talking about. Posted by: amphead
=C2=BB=20 RE: Shouldn't High Times know better than to call it = "marijuana"?=20 Posted by: Lauren
=C2=BB=20 RE: Shouldn't High Times know better than to call it = "marijuana"?=20 Posted by: VannaLaRoche
=C2=BB=20 Call it Kaneh bosm!!! Posted by: garry=20 minor
=C2=BB=20 Good point - I always call it Cannabis Sativa, the closest = relative to=20 Hops! Posted by:=20 thoughtcriminal
=C2=BB=20 RE: Shouldn't High Times know better than to call it = "marijuana"?=20 Posted by: ALANHESTER
Never gonna happen
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Posted by: awj on Sep 1, = 2007 7:33=20 AM   
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There are just two reasons = why=20 cannabis will never be legal, money and power. Many industries are = threatened by hemp. The paper industry, for example, makes a lot = of money=20 turning old growth forests into paper. If hemp were legal the = paper=20 industry would have to replace a good chunk of infrastructure or = face=20 competition from much cheaper hemp paper. The private prison = industry=20 makes great gobs of money by keeping large numbers of people in = prison.=20 These industries and more give large bribes (perfectly legally) to = politicians in order to preserve their profits.

On the = other hand=20 many organizations benefit directly from our current drug laws. = Drug laws=20 are very good for the police since they make it possible to arrest = and=20 jail anyone at any time (at least as long as the victim isn't rich = or well=20 connected). Drug laws and disenfranchisement are perfect for = suppressing=20 the black vote, ensuring that at least Republicans will always = support=20 them. And of course politicians always want to look tough, and = throwing=20 lots of people in jail does that.

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=C2=BB=20 IT'S TIME TO DEAL WITH THE TERRORIST INTERESTS THE CASEY JONES = SPORTS=20 WARRIOR WAY. Posted by:=20 maxpayne
=C2=BB=20 RE: Never gonna happen Posted by:=20 ALANHESTER
=C2=BB=20 RE: Never gonna happen Posted by:=20 earthfirst
Economics will win over policy = madness
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Posted by: ggmurray on = Sep 1, 2007=20 7:39 AM   
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American policy regarding = the cannabis=20 plant will fall of its own economic weight. There are too many = good=20 reasons to welcome this useful plant into the mainstream of = agricultural=20 production.

In the end, people will grow their own pot, = buy it in=20 the health food store and grocery, weave it into natural fiber = garments,=20 and be relieved that the climate of fear in America has been = lessened.=20

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=C2=BB=20 RE: conomics will win over policy madness Posted=20 by: ALANHESTER
working against yourselves
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Posted by: ottomaddog on = Sep 1,=20 2007 8:38 AM   
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I'm honestly not trying to = be an ass,=20 I'm not attacking anyone individually, I'm trying to be brutally=20 honest.
The very best thing 90% of marijuana smokers could do = for the=20 cause is shut the hell up.
Find the literate, articulate few = and let=20 them do our speaking for us.
Every "dude", "man", "like", = every rebel=20 yell, is a step backwards.
Look up a few real facts, memorize = them,=20 then look up a few more. try to tie things together, LEARN, a = stupid=20 soldier gets shot down, a smart soldier survives and = triumphs.
If you=20 have something intelligent to say, say it, if you don't, then shut = up.=20

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=C2=BB=20 RE: working against yourselves Posted = by:=20 Lauren
=C2=BB=20 RE: working against yourselves Posted = by:=20 ottomaddog
=C2=BB=20 RE: working against yourselves: Ottomaddog-I am a Republican. If = you don't=20 think Posted by: = SamFox
=C2=BB=20 RE: working against yourselves Posted = by:=20 goeswithness
=C2=BB=20 RE: working against yourselves Posted = by:=20 Lauren
=C2=BB=20 RE: working against yourselves Posted = by:=20 Doubtom
=C2=BB=20 RE: working against yourselves Posted = by:=20 donl51
=C2=BB=20 that's WHY it BECAME illegal... "shut up"? riiiiight... that works = WONDERFULLY Posted by: BlueBerry=20 PickN
=C2=BB=20 RE: working against yourselves Posted = by:=20 opeluboy
=C2=BB=20 RE: working against yourselves Posted = by:=20 ALANHESTER
An issue that will not go away =
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Posted by: ld7440 on Sep = 1, 2007=20 8:54 AM   
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Great article. We need to = continue to=20 put pressure on our Congressmen to respond to this issue. We all = know the=20 "War on drugs" is a joke, that Big Pharma wants to be the only = game in=20 town, that prescription drugs are far more deadly than cannabis, = that=20 they're in bed with the FDA. Consumers need to maintain their = freedom to=20 use herbs if they want to, including cannabis. (The last time I = looked,=20 poppy seeds weren't illegal). We need to go back to growing hemp, = like the=20 rest of the country. The benefits of this amazing plant need to be = tapped,=20 before the U.S. totally contaminates our food supply.=20 (http://www.organic-nature-news.com/facts-about-hemp.html)

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=C2=BB=20 Poppy seeds, are becoming UN-sold... everywhere Posted by: BlueBerry PickN
=C2=BB=20 RE: An issue that will not go away Posted by:=20 ALANHESTER
It's our fault, home of the brave ,my = ass=20
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Posted by: linecrosser = on Sep 1,=20 2007 8:55 AM   
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marijuana is still = illegal, because we=20 the smokers haven't pushed the issue hard enough. Being vocal to = each=20 other is singing to the choir, We don't bring it up outside of our = own=20 circles so none smokers don't care. Just as were afraid to take = the=20 subject to the street,to church, to work, to other social circles, = so is=20 the politician afraid to bring it to debate or write a bill on it. = It is=20 up to us to let them know that it would not be political suicide = to=20 decriminalize it. home of the brave,yeah right.

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=C2=BB=20 RE: It's our fault, home of the brave ,my ass: Good post!! One=20 reason Posted by: = SamFox
=C2=BB=20 RE: It's our fault, home of the brave , brain damage NOT - = link=20 Posted by: Lauren
=C2=BB=20 RE: It's our fault, home of the brave ,my ass Posted by: ALANHESTER
#1-Because God say's so! Kaneh = bosm!!!
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Posted by: garry minor = on Sep 1,=20 2007 9:24 AM   
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The #1 reason to legalize = cannabis is=20 because God say's so, and #2, it will save our freegin planet. Not = only is=20 cannabis the most useful plant on the planet and can supply us = with over=20 25,000 ecologically friendly products, from paper, plastics, = paints,=20 varnishes, textiles, pressed board, foods, fuels, and many = medicines, but=20 it is also a must for true spirituality. Whether called Kaneh = bosm,=20 Cannabis, Haoma, Hemp, Taima, Ma, or another, it has been the key = to human=20 spiritual development.
In 1936 a Polish Anthropologist named = Sula Benet=20 discovered that in the original Hebrew of the Old Testament the = word=20 "kaneh bosm" was translated as calamus or fragrant cane by the = Greeks when=20 they first rendered the Books in the 3rd century BC and propagated = as such=20 in all later translations. Benet contended through her research = and=20 etymological comparison the proper translation is cannabis. In = 1980 the=20 Hebrew Institute of Jerusalem confirmed her claim that "kaneh = bosm" is=20 indeed cannabis.
In Exodus 30:23 God instructs Moses to use 250 = shekels=20 of "kaneh bosm" in the oil to anoint all Kings, Priests, and = Prophets, for=20 all generations, including Jesus and today. The title Christ means = literally covered in oil, "Anointed". Kaneh is also listed as an = incense=20 tree in Song of Songs 4:14. The mistake was repeated in Isaiah = 43:24,=20 Jeremiah 6:20, and Ezekiel 27:19. There are 141 references to = anointing=20 and 145 for burning incense in the standard Bible.
The Word = "kaneh=20 bosm" and the discovery of the Gnostic Gospels at Nag Hammadi = Egypt in=20 1945 after being buried in the sand for 1600 years reveal that the = True=20 Christians of Jesus day were in fact "Anointed Ones". Jesus came = to make=20 Anointed Priests of all men. In the Bible, 1 John 2:18-29, John = tells of=20 of many antichrist and mentions several times the Anointing that = teaches=20 the Truth, and that the Anointing is real and not counterfeit. = John the=20 Baptist claimed that while he Baptized with water, Jesus would = baptize=20 with fire and the Holy Spirit, (1 Samuel 16:13). The Gnostic = Gospel of=20 Philip say's; "there is water in water, there is fire in Chrism." = And=20 again it say's; "The "Chrism" is superior to Baptism, for it is = from the=20 word "Chrism" that we have been called "Christians", certainly not = because=20 of the word Baptism. And it is because of the "Chrism" that the = "Christ"=20 has his name. For the Father anointed the Son, and the Son = anointed the=20 Apostles, and the Apostles anointed us. He who has been anointed = possesses=20 everything. He possesses the Resurrection, the Light, the Cross, = the Holy=20 Spirit. The Father gave him this in the Bridal chamber. He merely = accepted=20 the gift. The Father was in the Son and the Son in the Father. = This is the=20 Kingdom of Heaven."
The word antichrist that John warns us of = means=20 literally, "opposed to or against anointed", and anointed is "to = pour oil=20 upon as in a relgious ceremony". Therefore having done = considerable=20 research on the subject it seems that the antichrist John warns of = was=20 indeed successful at watering down the Truth of Christianity, and = that is=20 why the world is in the sad shape it is today. If the Truth of = Christ has=20 been hidden then we are actually living according to the will of=20 antichrist, the counterfeit spirit. It all looks really good, but = in truth=20 it isn't really. We have no way to compare. While this may seem = crazy, I=20 beg anyone to put it to the test. I have yet to find a man that = can=20 Biblically deny it. Not a Pastor, Policeman, Judge, or Doctor. = They can=20 say that they don't believe it, but the Book and our Constitution = give us=20 the Right to Worship the God of our Understanding, and the God of = Truth=20 loves Kaneh bosm!
We can all continue to play games with = Corporate=20 America at the cost to our freedoms and health, or those with eyes = to see,=20 ears to hear, and hearts that understand can stand up and say = "Game Over",=20 God has spoken.
Peace!!!

Matthew 13:11-23, 1 John = 2:18-29,=20 Psalm 133

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=C2=BB=20 RE: #1-Because God say's so! Kaneh bosm!!! Posted=20 by: Doubtom
=C2=BB=20 RE: #1-Because God say's so! Kaneh bosm!!! Posted=20 by: Lauren
=C2=BB=20 RE: #1-Because God say's so! Kaneh bosm!!! Posted=20 by: donl51
Legalize it all!
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Posted by: NumberSix on = Sep 1,=20 2007 10:03 AM   
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Historical quiz time: What = two things=20 came out of prohibition?

The mafia and NASCAR. The mafia, = as they=20 made plenty of money on illegal booze. NASCAR? Yes, the boys who = "ran=20 shine" did, later on, get together to race and compete. Imagine = that,=20 eh?

What happened when prohibition was lifted? Shiners went = out of=20 business. Can't compete against Seagram, Annheiser-Busch, Jack = Daniels,=20 now can you? The mafia moved on to other areas of illegality. = NASCAR got=20 sponsors.

Granted, alcohol addiction is a very bad = disease, and=20 why we don't recognize such as a disease baffles me. These days, = we have=20 loads of other addictions: Crack, coke, grass, meth, whatever. Oh, = and=20 these are all illegal, of course.

"Gee, how do we stop all=20 this?"

One, you eliminate the profitability of it. Let's = face hard,=20 cold facts: Nobody makes meth because they like the product, and = how can=20 you? You ever deal with anhydrous ammonia? I'd prefer smoking = around gas=20 tanks. Yet, some take such a risk, and why?

I call it the = "duh"=20 factor: You get some help, a few hundred in chemicals, and = eventually, you=20 turn all that into $100,000 return. Gee, what stocks pay like = that? What=20 job pays like that?

See, that's why drugs are so neat to so = many:=20 Sure, there's a high risk involved, but the lure of the huge = profit margin=20 sings her siren song. Hence, we have cartels, dealers, = distributors,=20 runners, an entire manufacturing network, that, at last I read, = made more=20 income than Exxon-Mobil.

So, why not legalize grass, meth, = crack,=20 coke, the whole nine yards? Despite many going "OH MY = GOD!"....imagine the=20 results:

-WHAT meth labs? Meth will cost far less, and be = safer, in=20 accordance to FDA regs of course....

-The prices, due to = high-speed=20 manufacturers coming into the market will destroy all the cartels, = just=20 like Seagrams, Annheiser-Busch and others wiped out the=20 shiners.

Oh, yes, we'll still have dopers. We may well have = LESS of=20 them...because those who distribute...will disappear, or, go legit = and=20 open a drug store.

It's the profit angle that makes it = work. We=20 just don't realize this. So, legalize it. There. End of crack = dealers, end=20 of meth labs, end of smuggling. End of high = profitability.

Imagine=20 then pocketing the difference...in having less crowded jails, less = full=20 prisons, and how about those billions we waste pretending we're = doing=20 something about it? Gee, what could we do with all that leftover = money?=20 Hmm. Health care?

The mind boggles....

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=C2=BB=20 RE: Legalize it all! Posted by:=20 aussidawg
=C2=BB=20 RE: Legalize it all! GOOD POST! Posted = by:=20 SamFox
=C2=BB=20 RE: Legalize it all! GOOD POST! really? Posted by:=20 benbad
'Tis a pity
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Posted by: PJT on Sep 1, = 2007=20 10:06 AM   
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Too bad all the reasons = listed are=20 contradicted by the reality of big money industry that is making a = bundle=20 on dope now, just the way things are. The prison industry loves = dope=20 dealers and users: most of them are passive and not expensive to = keep. The=20 pharma industry is not going to allow millions to self medicate = (and the=20 medicinal benefits of dope will be immediately obvious to = millions) when=20 these folks are hooked now on expensive designer concoctions to = control=20 what ails you. The alcohol industry? Let's not get into that. Who = do you=20 think the "criminal gangs" making all this money are, the = "Taliban"? Sorry=20 dear, EVERYBODY is making money on dope, friend and foe alike. The = "war on=20 drugs" would lose its purpose if dope were legalized. There are = 100,000=20 people in the US whose jobs depend on the WOD. Silly rabbits. = Suppressing=20 dope is big business in the US. And since when did common sense = and the=20 greatest good ever influence a politician?

By the way: I = don't=20 smoke dope, drink alcohol, eat sugar, meat, fowl, refined = carbohydrates or=20 processed food. I am 100% sober 100% of the time and I am = perfectly happy.=20 I really don't give a crap about the sad-ass dope smokers of this = country.=20 It's illegal: if you use it, you deserve to go to jail. If you = want to=20 waste your life doping it up, move to a civilized country like the = Netherlands. It ain't gonna happen here, OK, so you might as well = obey the=20 law, and shut up. Philip J Tramdack

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=C2=BB=20 RE: 'Tis a pity Posted by:=20 Doubtom
=C2=BB=20 RE: 'Tis a pity Posted by:=20 Doubtom
=C2=BB=20 A Good German to the end... such a 'hard-eyed realist'. = Oink.=20 Posted by: thoughtcriminal
=C2=BB=20 RE: 'Tis a pity Posted by:=20 lib3288
=C2=BB=20 RE: 'Tis a pity Posted by:=20 Raj
=C2=BB=20 RE: Funny but you don't seem very happy... Posted=20 by: jimidee
=C2=BB=20 RE: 'Tis a pity Posted by:=20 ALANHESTER
Only one reason, not ten!
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Posted by: Doubtom on = Sep 1, 2007=20 10:06 AM   
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The one and only reason = canabis should=20 be legalized is that it grows naturally.
We should not suffer = any=20 government arrogant enough to declare any naturally growing plant = illegal.=20 In the entire history of governments, there has never been a = better=20 example of insufferable arrogance than this nation's declaration = of=20 marijuana as "illegal". What's next? Oak trees? How about oleander = which=20 has a poisonous sap? Why not poison ivy? Why not = insanity!!!?
Why not=20 tell the law makers to piss off? Get religion and private money = out of our=20 elections!

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=C2=BB=20 RE: Only one reason, not ten! Posted by: = donl51
=C2=BB=20 RE: Only one reason, not ten! Posted by: = Doubtom
=C2=BB=20 DNA is not a PRODUCT: can you say BIO-Prospecting & DNA = Bio-Piracy=20 industry? Posted by: BlueBerry=20 PickN
And what about salvia?
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Posted by: DPS on Sep 1, = 2007=20 11:06 AM   
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Everyone should feel the = same for=20 Salvia Divorinum, being as how it's going to be illegal starting = in 2008.=20 It has never had anyone get hurt under the influence, and it's = completely=20 safe. So why it's going the other way now is way beyond me.... We = need to=20 stand together against these social atrocities.

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=C2=BB=20 RE: And what about salvia? Posted by:=20 dougo
=C2=BB=20 RE: And what about salvia? Posted by:=20 phatkhat
=C2=BB=20 ...declare Fox news...sickofsleaze Posted by:=20 wilmafromkansas
=C2=BB=20 RE: ...declare Fox news...sickofsleaze Posted by:=20 plantsareneat
"5. Prohibition is based on lies and=20 disinformation."
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Posted by: Annapurna1 on = Sep 1,=20 2007 11:12 AM   
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this fact alone means that = there is an=20 ulterior motive at work..and as long as that motive = exists..factual=20 arguments against prohibition are futile...

the ulterior = motive is=20 of course the power of the executive branch and the profits of its = campaign sponsors ..the prison-military-industrial-complex.. nylon = rope=20 manufacturers (big oil).. and big pharma...overshadowing all this = is the=20 moralism that ppl exist to serve the economy and not the other way = around.. which is a morality that obviously precludes consumer = choices=20 such as marijuana...

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=C2=BB=20 RE: "5. Prohibition is based on lies and disinformation." = Posted by: panama420
My war to make weed common
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Posted by: dougo on Sep = 1, 2007=20 11:29 AM   
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In the southern part of = Ohio the=20 national and state forests are prime growing areas, but in the = middle of=20 the state we have no such forests. We must use the farmers land to = grow=20 our smoke. Actually I prefer this to woodland weed as the ground = is=20 prepared for you and it suits the cultivation of herb perfectly. = The PH=20 for corn is right on and you often get free fertilization also. = The corn=20 field is also advantageous over the woodlands for the lack of = animals such=20 as deer which also love weed. All you have to do is have your = plants=20 started by late April, wait for the corn to be planted and get to = about=20 four to six inches tall,at which time the farmer sprays herbicide. = After=20 about a week or so or a couple of good rainfalls,voil=C3=A0, it's = weed planting=20 time. I have grown on smaller family farms and the hobby farmers. = I even=20 paid a farmer I knew once for the use of his cropland. He knew I = got high=20 and mentioned being in sad financial shape due to the low price of = traditional crops. I made him a generous offer to allow me to grow = on his=20 land. I did all the tending of the crop and told him if the law = found the=20 weed all he had to do was feign ignorance with a little anger at = those=20 drug growers thrown in and he would suffer no consequences from = Johnie=20 Law. It worked great. I was able to supply my friends and family = with high=20 quality,low cost herbage and he made some tax free cash too.I = prefer to=20 plant on a moonlit night to avoid the use of flashlights. I try to = pick=20 fields away from the farmers house, preferably on sparsely or = uninhabited=20 roads. Finding the fields the fall before is a good policy. = Usually corn=20 will follow soy beans in the rotation of crops. A couple of times = during=20 the season you need to go out to check on it and fertilize. What = you do is=20 simply carry a box of your favorite fertilizer be it Miracle-Gro, = or=20 whichever. I use Miracle Gro during the growing season. I use Maxi = Crop=20 for my starts which is made from kelp. It is easy on the plants = and you=20 can't hardly over fertilize. You can use this all season also as = it is an=20 excellent fertilizer,all natural and organic. You just take the = handy=20 enclosed measuring scoop and scatter 1 scoop at the base of each = plant.=20 The next time it rains, your plants are given a boost and you = aren't even=20 there. Be sure to rough up the soil slightly or use your finger or = a stick=20 and poke some holes around the plants so the fertilizer doesn't = wash away=20 in case it rains hard. Also you should try to cultivate the lower = growing=20 varieties of plants. Nothing is more of a give-away to your herb = garden=20 than ten or twelve foot plants waving in the wind when the sheriff = helicopters are overhead. Keep them spaced out twenty or more = feet, not in=20 rows, no real pattern to your plantings. If it looks like common = weeds=20 growing there is less chance of discovery. Keep an eye on the = fields=20 around harvest time. You can usually grow an excellent crop of = ganja and=20 get in and out safely if, you are cautious and don't beat a path = to it by=20 visiting your patch unnecessarily. Sometimes you can't find it by = site but=20 if you grow a good quality weed you will smell it before you see = it. You=20 have to get to the weed before the farmer harvests his crop. = Nothing is=20 worse than going to your field to harvest your bud,only to find = the farmer=20 already chopped it up with his combine. Well I hope I haven't = given away=20 any trade secrets here and I'm not trying to encourage anyone to = break the=20 law, but if you choose to try your hand at it a few tips can't = hurt.If we=20 all grow our own this country will be a better place to live. I do = advocate taking all the seeds you have which aren't of the quality = required for your personal crop and scattering them around the = countryside=20 or even in towns. Take a tablespoon full and throw them in your = city's=20 flower garden in front of the county court house. Those traffic = islands=20 would look good with a few marijuana specimen plants mixed in with = the=20 geraniums and impatiens. Happy gardening America

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=C2=BB=20 RE: My war to make weed common:PLEASE! Some paragraphs! = Posted by: SamFox
=C2=BB=20 RE: My war to make weed common Posted = by:=20 Blade
=C2=BB=20 RE: My war to make weed common Posted = by:=20 ALANHESTER
=C2=BB=20 RE: My war to make weed common Posted = by:=20 ALANHESTER
Pot Smoking is Smoking
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Posted by: skyflyer on = Sep 1, 2007=20 12:07 PM   
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Like it or not when you = smoke pot you=20 are smoking and all the bans against smoking make any smoking a = thing of=20 the past.

It's too bad people didn't fight all the smoking = bans=20 when they had a chance...

Skyrider

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=C2=BB=20 See below. Posted by:=20 thoughtcriminal
=C2=BB=20 RE: Pot Smoking is Smoking Vaporize Posted by:=20 Johnny Hempseed
=C2=BB=20 RE: Pot Smoking is Smoking Posted by:=20 jimidee
Compare and contrast: Cannabis and=20 Nicotiana
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Posted by: = thoughtcriminal on Sep=20 1, 2007 12:27 PM   
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One of the earlier = comments claimed=20 that new cannabis is genetically modified to be 'stonger than = cocaine'...=20 what nonsense!

30 years ago, there was hashish, which is = just=20 concentrated THC-rich glands from the hemp plant. It was just as = strong=20 then as it is now.

There is a truth to this, but I doubt = it's one=20 that cannabis prohibition advocates want to hear. During alcohol=20 prohibition, the only kind of alcohol anyone could get was the = strongest=20 proof - because of shipping issues. A keg of beer has a lot less = alcohol=20 in it than a keg of whiskey, after all.

Prohibition = naturally leads=20 to people only selling the most concentrated form of product - = that's why=20 opium is converted to morphine or heroin before being snuck across = borders; that's why coca leaf is converted to cocaine - etc.=20 etc.

There are milder strains of cannabis, as well as cured = leaf,=20 that have far milder effects than what are known as 'medicinal = strains'.=20 Powerful cannabis strains are perfect for medical use - only one = or two=20 puffs is needed to get the medical effect, meaning less residue = ends up in=20 the lungs. Smoking through a water pipe also vastly reduces any = particle=20 intake.

In a rational world, one could choose what was = appropriate=20 - as is the case with alcohol. One can have a beer, or a glass of = wine, or=20 brandy. Moderation is the key, right?

The claim that = 'cannabis=20 leads to psychotic reactions' is also BS - some people have = psychotic=20 reactions after having a glass or two of beer, after all. Some = people=20 should not drink, and some people should not smoke cannabis - to = each=20 their own.

Now, let's look at tobacco - the only = 'genetically=20 enhanced' drug plant that I know of - see GMO tobacco in = Brazil, AP,=20 1997
SANTA CRUZ DO SUL, Brazil (AP) -- Freakish tobacco = plants=20 that explode from the soil in this remote river valley grow huge = leaves on=20 stalks as thick as Louisville Sluggers. The growers here call it = fumo=20 louco -Crazy tobacco.

Crazy not just because it grows so = big and so=20 fast. Crazy because it has been genetically altered by one of the = world's=20 largest tobacco companies to pack twice the nicotine of other = commercially=20 grown leaf.

Fumo louco -- the farmers' generic term for = several=20 related strains of high- nicotine tobacco -- is the offspring of a = genetically altered plant created in U.S. laboratories for Brown = &=20 Williamson Tobacco Corp., the third largest U.S. cigarette maker. = The seed=20 was then secretly shipped to Brazil in violation of U.S. export=20 law."


Tobacco kills half a million people a year. The = smoke is=20 noxious and poisonous, and stains fingers, teeth, furniture, = walls, and=20 clothing - unlike cannabis smoke. The best use for tobacco is as a = powerful natural pesticide.

Purified nicotine is a virulent = poison.=20 The people who make the 'nictotine patches' have to work in space = suits in=20 a biocontainment facility in order to avoid accidental death by=20 poisoning.

Cannabis, on the other hand, is perfectly safe - = but=20 kids shouldn't smoke it, just as kids shouldn't drink alcohol. Any = kind of=20 drug can damage the developing body and mind...

BUT that = doesn't=20 keep corporate America from drugging kids up with Ritalin, = Adderall,=20 caffeine, high fructose corn syrup, Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, etc., = now does=20 it?

The levels of dishonesty and hypocrisy with respect to = this=20 issue are simply...astonishing. Mind-boggling levels of = disinformation!=20

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=C2=BB=20 BigTobacco perfected NICOTINE FreeBasing: Industrialized,=20 Petroleum-dependent TOBACCO Posted by: = BlueBerry=20 PickN
Now you all know why hemp is = important. Now get=20 out there and fight the vested Interests who
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were responsible for = banning hemp.=20 Save money, environment, security, peace, and FREEDOM !

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By the way, Ron Paul is trying again = to make=20 INDUSTRIAL HEMP legal.
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Posted by: maxpayne on = Sep 1, 2007=20 1:47 PM   
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GUN down your Congress = people and=20 Senators and make them support it.

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Control
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Posted by: Knobby on Sep = 1, 2007=20 3:53 PM   
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Thats what it's all about, = has been,=20 is, and will be...Control.
We are not FREE people/humans,never = have=20 been, never will be...
Even in the first 3 chapters of the = worlds most=20 popular book, the Bible, during the creation period, it's about=20 control.
Someone/something telling us what we can do or can't=20 do....
and it has been that way ever since, big/important = forces=20 telling little/insignificant humans what to play with,whats bad = for=20 us,whats good for us,what to read,what to eat,etc.,etc.
And = they all=20 get such a big kick out of watching us argue over everything = amongst=20 ourselves....

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GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY
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Marajuana is not easily = controlled by=20 the government and it can be grown anywhere which makes it even = harder to=20 control so it becomes the poster child for the ridiculous = illusionary war=20 on drugs while record crops of opium leave Afghanistan each year = since we=20 "freed" that country. What a laugh!!
The government has already = been=20 caught dealing cocaine in the Iran Contra shame.
Politicians = accept=20 huge money from the alcohol industry, a drug that has destroyed = more=20 people than cocaine yet all forms of booze are totally legal. =
Big=20 Pharma has an approved synthetic version of marajuana that is = legal by=20 prescription.
It seems that criminal charges for marajuana do = nothing=20 but overcrowd prisons which are now becoming the privatized = corporate=20 buddies with the government.
We even had ads claiming that if = you=20 smoked marajuana you were supporting terrorism. You can drink a = quart of=20 vodka, become dangerously anti social and may even kill someone in = the=20 process but you're not supporting terrorism...please
Time to = wake up=20 to the propaganda and control that is being forced on us. 1984 is = here and=20 Big Brother and the Neocon New World Order Ministry of Love is = upon us.=20

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=C2=BB=20 RE: GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY Posted by:=20 richholland
Your Battle of Indiviual Rights = starts here...=20 Free Marc Emery!
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Posted by: Bearzerker on = Sep 1,=20 2007 4:48 PM   
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No = Extradition=20 for the BC3! Three Canadians face extradition to, and life=20 imprisonment in, the United States - but they've never been=20 there!

Dona= te to=20 the defense fund! show your displeasure by supporting these=20 international hero's of individual rights and freedoms by donating = to=20 there defense fund and take "our" battle to "your" = elected=20 representatives, to show your disapproval over the US Government's = international policies of an Ally on global terrorism, and the = recognition=20 of a Sovereign Nations right to self determination, policing and=20 enforcement of this and any issue in there own way.
Win Loose = or=20 Draw... The DEA has already won a major battle in continuing the=20 Prohibition as the Canadian Decriminalization bill brought in = under the=20 former government of Canada was not brought before Parliament for = passage=20 and we lost major momentum on the global prohibition of this = plant...=20
Marc Emery, Greg Williams and Michelle Rainey's cause is = worthy of=20 your support!

The=20 Strange, Seedy Case of Marc Emery From AlterNet
The reach = of US Law=20 into the Canadian self governance "should" be decisive here, but = the=20 influence of US special interest groups on this debate is much = deeper than=20 this article implies ...and it all boils down to one thing, the = money=20 ...were theirs money theirs corruption... and those that will pull = no=20 punches in order to keep the status quo no matter international = boundaries=20 or the laws of sovereign nations... the money trail is = "HUGE"

Extradition=20 Blues From Cannabis Culture.
Why is the United States = wanting to=20 reach into a Sovereign Nation Like Canada and actually expects to=20 successfully extradite these three Canadian citizens... the answer = is=20 simple, they are active organizers and opponents to the global = prohibition=20 of this plant, and there social activism is actually working in = this=20 country and because this group is deemed an internal US national = threat=20 because of there activities in a Country which is deemed an Allie = and=20 close friend of the US, and their activism is contradicting = standing US=20 governmental policies of prohibition internationally.
This=20 Administrations Governmental actions internationally show immoral = and=20 disturbing trends in Global law and the Hague statutes in which = the US=20 Government refused to ratify under this current administration for = obvious=20 reasons.

Emery = Fights=20 Back, DEA expands attack From Cannabis Culture
Get the = facts,=20 organize and support a true global hero of individual rights and = freedoms,=20 write your congressional representative's and have the active = interference=20 of your government stopped before irreparable damage is done by = the most=20 inept administration the US has ever had.

Prohibition isn't = just=20 flawed as is outline by all the comments I've read on this subject = on=20 AlterNet to date, but is Constitutionally illegal on many more = grounds=20 then can be seen, nationally and internationally.

JOIN = THE FIGHT=20 AND DONATE TO A WINNABLE CAUSE, END PROHIBITION NOW
Dona= te to=20 the defense fund!

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=C2=BB=20 RE: Your Battle of Indiviual Rights starts here... Free Marc=20 Emery! Posted by: = chomsky
If caffiene were discovered=20 today...sickofsleaze
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Posted by: = wilmafromkansas on Sep=20 1, 2007 5:41 PM   
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it would be banned
If = Aspirin were=20 just now being discovered it would be put in the same class of = drugs as=20 morghine et al.
Yet doctors advise us to take one each day as = a blood=20 thinner to prevent heart attacks and strokes.
I have a = life-threatening=20 allergy to ASA so if I have a heart attack of stroke I am a dead = duck. Is=20 Cannabis a blood thinner?

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Pot Laws give Cops a FREE PASS to = over-rule=20 RIGHTS based on SUBJECTIVE Observation
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Posted by: BlueBerry = PickN on Sep=20 2, 2007 12:04 AM   
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take a = breath...

think about=20 it... &
recognize that...
Pot=20 Laws STEAL PROGRESSIVE VOTES & disenfranchise *independent = thinkers*

think about it.


Spread = Love...
...=20 but wear the Glove!



BlueBerry Pick'n =
can be=20 found @
ThisCanadian=20 ~~~

We, two, form a Multitude ~ Ovid. =
~~~
"Silent=20 Freedom is Freedom Silenced"

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=C2=BB=20 Excellent Point, BlueBerry Posted by:=20 thornwolf
freedom ..best reason for = Americans
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If a person is not allowed = to do to=20 themselves what ever they wish then they are not free.
How the = heck can=20 anyone support the Constitution and the so called Drug war at the = same=20 time?
Only a hypocrite ,like Reagan, could speak of freedom and = the=20 drug war ....no true American who supports the Bill Of Rights = could.

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=C2=BB=20 What Good is Freedom if You Can't Exercise it? Posted by: thornwolf
Davy
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Wouldn't have anything to = do with=20 "legal drug" lobbies would it, or the fact that it just might wake = up=20 folks that being a cog in the wheel and sitting your whole life in = a=20 office cubicle like a battery chicken may not be the best way to = live your=20 life and and "God forbid" we don't want folks to "be happy", happy = people=20 don't make good minions.

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Pothed logic
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Posted by: chomsky on = Sep 2, 2007=20 7:22 AM   
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You used some brilliant = reasoning on a=20 few of those. Here are some excerpts from my article, "The Top Ten = Reasons=20 Murder Should be Legal":
10) Prohibition of murder has failed = to=20 prevent it from happening. The government has tried to use = criminal=20 penalties to prevent murder for 230 years, yet every year nearly = 20,000=20 people are murdered in the United States.
9) Arrests for murder = disproportionately affect blacks and hispanics...
7) Legalized = murder=20 would prevent the flow of cash to organized crime gangs such as = the mafia.=20 Why hire a hitman when you can do it yourself?
3) Murder is too = expensive for the justice system. We should just tax it instead. = Right now=20 it costs like $30,000 to have somebody killed. Imagine if that = money went=20 straight to the government as a tax!
1) Murderers are = determined to=20 stand up to the injustice of murder being illegal. Despite the = threats of=20 arrest--and even the death penalty--murderers continue to vanquish = their=20 foes without cause!

Yeah, I know. Marijuana use is not = comparable=20 to murder, since pot is a "victimless crime". But that's a moot = point in=20 the argument I'm making. Personally I do think it should be = legalized, but=20 you tried too hard to find 10 reasons.

Making something = illegal=20 will never stop 100% of people from doing it. Using that as an = excuse to=20 throw in the towel and stop prosecuting it would be pretty = freaking=20 stupid.

Arguments about racially disproportionate arrests = are a=20 shitty example because pretty much ALL criminal convictions are = slanted=20 towards minorities. At best, this represents racism in our legal = system=20 and has nothing to do with marijuana. Stop the racism and the = marijuna=20 arrests will go down.
I also have to wonder about the little = tidbit=20 about blacks and hispanics being arrested for smoking in plain = view. It=20 stands to reason that if they're doing it in public, and whites = are doing=20 it in the privacy of their own home, blacks and hispanics are way = more=20 likely to get caught.

Preventing the flow of cash to = terrorism is a=20 good goal, but they'd just pick up some other illegal market and=20 capitalize on it. So a few years down the line, you'll just be = using the=20 same argument in favor of legalizing heroin or child porn or=20 something.

Saying that it's too expensive has the same = flaws as the=20 "it happens anyhow" defense. While it's always good to save money, = if pot=20 was truly bad, we'd still have to enforce the law, regardless of = the=20 cost.
Besides, do you have any actual facts to support that = assertion?=20 The government seizes property from drug dealers and auctions it = off.=20 Sure, arresting the occasional college kid is going to lose you = money, but=20 does it cost enough to negate the money they make from the big=20 fish?

And I'm not sure what you were getting at on the = number one=20 point. "We're determined not to give up". Good for you, but it's = still=20 illegal. Do you really expect other people to give two shits about = how=20 determined you are?
If you want the law to change, that's = great. Keep=20 promoting your cause. But just the fact that you really really = really want=20 to smoke weed isn't enough to persuade me.

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=C2=BB=20 RE: Pothed logic Posted by:=20 chomsky
=C2=BB=20 RE: Pothed logic Posted by:=20 jimidee
=C2=BB=20 Idiotic Argument Posted by:=20 thornwolf
=C2=BB=20 I should have said "the most wrong thing" Posted=20 by: thornwolf
=C2=BB=20 RE: Pothed logic Posted by:=20 panama420
Brain Dead Logic..... US GOV "We are = FOR FREE=20 TRADE .....but
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Posted by: picket on Sep = 2, 2007=20 9:47 AM   
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we oppose...." = #6.....Development of=20 HEMP as a valuable and diverse agricultural crop. Our trading = partners in=20 Europe and Canada can legally grow hemp. USA can import hemp = products BUT=20 not export because Americans are not allowed to grow this valuable = crop=20 because USA Drug Policy demonizes Hemp's cousin crop.

The = Latest=20 From Hemp-Brain Food, Indeed , article from the 9/01/07..Montreal=20 Gazette.... .."its cultivation is banned in the USA, which means = this=20 country is poised to dominate the North American hemp food = market."=20

http://www.manitobaharvest.com/faq.html

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Gee, THANKS!
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This article implies that = all people=20 for legalizing drugs are drug users.

Cripes, stoners can be = annoying.

But merely being annoying is not sufficient = reason for=20 being tossed into jail.

However, thanks to this article,=20 non-stoners in the legalization movement will face more police=20 harassment.

Cripes, stoners can be = stupid.

But merely=20 being annoying and stupid is not sufficient reason for being = tossed into=20 jail.

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=C2=BB=20 RE: Gee, THANKS! Posted by:=20 archon
Reason #11...the best one of = all...
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Posted by: jimidee on = Sep 2, 2007=20 11:14 AM   
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is that MJ is a legitimate = bona fide=20 aphrodisiac. Nuff said!

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=C2=BB=20 RE: eason #11...the best one of all... Posted by:=20 opeluboy
While we're at it, we need to vote in = a Prez,=20 like Ron
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Posted by: SamFox on Sep = 2, 2007=20 12:14 PM   
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Paul. Here are some = reasons why.
I=20 wanna know what the other candidates have to say about the IRS, = The=20 "Federal" Reserve, the income tax, State's rights, undeclared = illegal=20 wars, the drug war, the free market & the return of individual = liberties to the people. Also what do all the candidates say about = the=20 open borders, the Texas super corridor & the North American = Union.=20 Then there is Ron's clarion call for the US gov to return to the=20 Constitution as the supreme law of the USA. So far the others are = very=20 silent on these critical topics. I have not heard a peep from them = about=20 going back to the US Constitution, for openers.

These = issues may be=20 more important than even the RE legalization of hemp & = cannabis.=20 Especially the repeal of the income tax amendment (never ratified = in the=20 proper time by the States), the abolition of the "Fed" & it's = Gestapo,=20 the IRS, & chucking the "Fed's" fiat currency. Has any one = besides Ron=20 called for a return to the gold standard so our near worthless = money is=20 not printed out of "thin air" with NO backing whatsoever? Didn't = think=20 so.

Do you know how dangerous fractional reserve banking is = to our=20 nation's economy? Have you heard Ron speak about the hidden = inflation tax=20 caused by fiat money being over printed, which is the source of = inflation?=20 That is one reason the oil co's have lied about & manipulated = the=20 price of oil. They need to make up for what inflation has cost=20 them.

(Fractional reserve banking: Steven Yates -- Our = Money System=20 - The Biggest Swindle in History! )

Also on the US monetary = system,=20 the "Fed" & IRS, check out the late Aaron Russo's "From = Freedom To=20 Fascism". Aaron's site also endorses Ron Paul, if I am not=20 mistaken.

(Aaron's site)

America: Freedom to=20 Fascism

(Link from Aaron's site)
Republic Magazine -=20 Home

Ron Paul has addressed these. But I have not heard = much on=20 these subjects from the others. Also would any of the others go = for hemp=20 farming? Regarding cannabis & hemp, Ron says the States should = decide.=20 He also says the raids on the Cali medical cannabis dispensaries = is UN=20 Constitutional.

There is more to Ron Paul than only medical = cannabis. MJ & hemp are only the tip of the Ron Paul "ice = burg". He=20 wants to reduce the size & scope of the US gov. Does Obama or = any of=20 the others talk like that?

RP is a peaceful revolutionary = regarding=20 turning the US around. Do any of the other candidates have the = voting=20 record to back up their talk? Plus he does not take money from = PACs or=20 special interests. A candidate may be ideal on one or two issues, = like=20 medical MJ, but there are many other issues that are of paramount=20 importance. Ron hits a home run on medical MJ but also knocks the = ball out=20 the park on the other topics I list.

What other candidate = can that=20 be said about?

I don't care if a Black or a woman or a = Black woman=20 is running. If he or she had Ron's platform they would get my vote = in a=20 heartbeat!!

SamFox

Note: I put the "Fed" in quotes = because=20 it is not a legal Federal, US agency. It is owned by private = bankers.

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Responsible Recreational Use
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I make no claims about the = myths/facts=20 concerning the regular use of marijuana. I personally find it to = be=20 stimulating to occasionally smoke it.

I am careful to = smoke in=20 private. When I do so, I do not drive or operate heavy machinery. = I do not=20 do it in front of children. I do not force others to assume=20 responsibility, or face any consequences of my choice to smoke = marijuana.=20

The use of any substance, legal or otherwise, does not = change the=20 fact that it should be used knowledgably, and responsibly.

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=C2=BB=20 RE: esponsible Recreational Use Posted = by:=20 richholland
Reason for Prohibition of = Marijuana
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There are three reasons = why US=20 Government prohibit marijuana....

Reason One: = Marijuana has=20 THC-active substance, which could start a long side-effect, such = as severe=20 depression, severe mood swing, and a possible migraine. Government = has=20 been researching this marijuana for a century-plus, and it has = been known=20 as Prohibition Drug of 1906 Act, which classifies schedule A, = schedule B,=20 and schedule C drugs. Only the federal government makes those = decision. No=20 states can override the federal drug laws. In recent years, states = that=20 joins the Marijuana Legalization Protest usually allowed Federal = Bureau of=20 Investigation to round up these illegal drug users and put them in = federal=20 prison. Only 35% of those offenders who were arrested by FBI are = from=20 California, thus California don't really have safety net on their=20 residents, thus been prosecuted and jailed for more than 10=20 years.

Reason Two: States attempted to = decriminalized these=20 marijuana has been overridden by the federal government, thus = threatened=20 voters to be arrested if they gave voters the current politician = their=20 retaining seat who supported legalizing marijuana. There's one = example=20 that one state put up a marijuana referendum and overwhelming = rejected=20 because of the fear of federal government will perform a massive = crackdown=20 on those illegals who obtains those marijuana. That is why we were = forced=20 to vote Republican and Democrats who supports illegalizing=20 marijuana.

Reason Three: We have voted the same = political=20 party for 200+ years, and we have never allowed Green Party, = Independent=20 Party, Right to Life Party, etc. their presidential, = congressional,=20 governor seats because Democrat and Republican have threatened us = to be=20 arrested if we gave these candidate the victory. We have never = given a=20 chance to give victory to a Green Party or Independent Party in = the=20 national election, but we are stuck with Democrat and Republican = over and=20 over. It did indeed prevent us from voicing opinion about other = candidate.=20 If we voted other candidate from a different party and we = legalized=20 marijuana, we could be out of control. That is why marijuana is = illegal to=20 keep voters from gaining these huge massive profits. Also, I = forgot to=20 mention that giant companies always endorsed either Democrat = and/or=20 Republican to make sure Marijuana stays illegal so they can kill = these=20 people, and allow the benefits of death tax to the federal=20 government.

If Marijuana is legal, but it will not benefit = the=20 government's pocket through death tax. Federal Government always = make sure=20 Marijauna stays illegal so they can still collect death taxes. =

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=C2=BB=20 RE: eason for Prohibition of Marijuana Posted by:=20 jimidee
Blasphemy!
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There is no chance for = leglization=20 as long as the Religious Right holds power in the U.S. The drug = war is a=20 religious war, the last Inquistion. For the fundamentalists, drugs = are not=20 chemicals that simply intoxicate people: They are demons that = enslave the=20 soul. The fundmentalists distinguish the illegal drugs from = alcohol and=20 tobacco by saying that the illegal drugs--in particular = marijuana--are=20 mind altering substances.

And ain't it SOooo = ironic!

The=20 very FIRST MIRACLE that Jesus Christ performed
was the = transformation=20 of water into WINE
at the insistence of his mother during a = wedding=20 feast.

The Son of God made an INEBRIANT, an = INTOXICANT
as the=20 first show of his miraculous power.
(and hoss, you can bet it = was the=20 very finest, most righteous wine
in existence, with undoubtably = a very=20 healthy alcohol content)

PUNISHEMENT MUST BE IMPOSED! = GOD=20 DEMANDS NOTHING LESS!

Yes. YES! I absoluterly=20 agree.

Take all the fundy whackos who dare call a beautiful = creation
of God - the cannabis plant - "a DEVILWEED"
and = stone=20 'em!
(no not THAT kind of stoning, but rather the Biblical = one
with=20 rocks and dirt clods and such)

Yep.
ANY religionists who = audaciously imply that Satan the Devil
was a Co-Creator with = God should=20 be charged with BLASPHEMY
and SEVERELY PUNISHED!

God = created ALL=20 the herbs in the Plant Kingdom
and called them good and=20 said:
"Behold, I give you every herb (to use)"...
and yet = these=20 self-righteous religious hypocrites and BLASPHEMERS
would power = grab=20 and make that herb created by God ILLEGAL
and have you thrown = in a cage=20 like a dangerous ANIMAL
for growing a plant of God and using it = with=20 all due reverence...
Why,
such G-D Morons should be publicly = flogged
or
as Gregg Allman would put it:
"Tied To The = Whupping=20 Post"

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Reason 11?
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Posted by: tojasoh on = Sep 3, 2007=20 9:48 AM   
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I have noticed another = very important=20 reason to decriminalize MJ: The Forfeiture Laws have created an=20 environment of distrust that trashes the neighborliness that I = used to=20 know as a kid. If my home, car, etc. can be confiscated because I = have a=20 roach in the ashtray, I am waaaay less likely to invite a neighbor = to drop=20 in for a visit. They just might have judgments about my use of MJ = and call=20 the police -- who might have nothing safer or more profitable to = do than=20 take my stuff....

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=C2=BB=20 RE: eason 11? You are correct ! Posted = by: Mr.=20 Heathen
=C2=BB=20 RE: eason 11? Posted by: Hope=20 High
Let's face it, the CURE is worse than = the=20 DISEASE! nm
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Posted by: jimidee on = Sep 4, 2007=20 5:31 AM   
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nm

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my opinion
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Posted by: heide on Sep = 5, 2007=20 6:54 AM   
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genesis 1 vrs 11&12=20 cannabis/hemp/marijuana...is/are seed yielding herbs
and have = been=20 blessed and called good by GOD
those who call cannabis/hemp = evil are=20 hypocrits and blaspheme their god
or the bible and the whole = religion=20 surrounding it are a lie
in my opinion it cannot be both = ways
not=20 sure about anybody else but i am tired of lies,,and double talk = and double=20 standards

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ligalization gives the profits to the = corporations
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Posted by: Cameo on Sep = 5, 2007=20 11:19 AM   
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"If the excessive profits = for=20 marijuana sales were ended through legalization..."

I = understand=20 that the author is trying to say that removing the profit = incentive from=20 sales of marijuana would decrease the drug's attraction for teens. = However=20 it is naive to think that legalizing marijuana would end the = excessive=20 profits made from it's sale. the profits would simply be given to = Big=20 Business instead of individual entrepreneurs. Decriminalizing = marijuana=20 requires much more societal change than simply passing a bill and=20 pretending that then everything will be better for black and = hispanic kids=20 in the US.

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=C2=BB=20 I worry about the same thing! Also... Posted by:=20 wheresarah
Not just legal pot, but mandatory = pot
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That's right. Think of = what a=20 wonderful world it would be if all people were encouraged to smoke = pot for=20 a year or so in their early/mid 20's. A world with calmer and more = accepting people could go a long way...
Think about it. A new = way to=20 peace?

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=C2=BB=20 RE: Not just legal pot, but mandatory pot Posted=20 by: ALANHESTER
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marijuana
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Posted by: blaubne on = Sep 7, 2007=20 6:20 AM   
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Legalization of marijuana = is a double=20 edged sword. It's understandble that people should have the choice = to use=20 the drug, much like tobaco or alcohol, but too much use of = marijuana can=20 have harmful effects to society. We don't want society to become = completly=20 "chill."

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=C2=BB=20 RE: marijuana Posted by:=20 ALANHESTER
=C2=BB=20 RE: marijuana Posted by: Hope=20 High
=C2=BB=20 What harmful effects? Posted by:=20 thornwolf
marijuana legalization
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Posted by: sasbeggs on = Sep 7, 2007=20 6:22 AM   
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Every point in this = article was right=20 on. It's crazy that we still deal with this issue on a daily basis = when=20 while waiting for this process to occur taxation of pot could be = helping=20 improve quality of governmental programs to get real harmful drugs = off the=20 streets & away from kids. I agree with the other gentleman = about=20 wanting proof of someone who has died from marijuana related = circumstances=20 when every day in the news people are dying in alcohol & hard = drug=20 related incidences. I say keep up the fight for legalization if = only to=20 prove that the things that are bad for us that are legal need to = be more=20 closely scrutinized even than those that are illegal.

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Best reason: The US needs more people = dead from=20 lung cancer, starting with the most stupid
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Posted by: xbj on Sep 8, = 2007 9:21=20 PM   
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The morons (and assholes) = claiming pot=20 smoking doesn't cause cancer are every bit as moronic and wrong = and in=20 some cases, duplicitous as those who claimed cigarette smoking was = "good"=20 and "healthy" for you throughout the 20th century.

Big = tobacco is=20 behind the legalization of pot... do the math and follow the blood = money.

As far as I'm concerned, smoke it if you got it; = you'll be=20 dead a lot quicker and the human race will be a lot smarter. Just = don't=20 dare to take me or mine or anyone else with you; then we're going = to have=20 a problem with your "freedom" to murder.

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=C2=BB=20 RE: You don't read so good... Posted by: = jimidee
=C2=BB=20 RE: And you don't think so good, but there's no surprise at all = there, is=20 there. Posted by: = xbj
=C2=BB=20 is UCLA stupid too? Posted by:=20 mr.E
=C2=BB=20 RE: is UCLA stupid too? No, but you are if you believe = them Posted by: xbj
Legalization, but...
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Posted by: bobbyw on Sep = 9, 2007=20 11:03 AM   
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When I first started my = wayward trip=20 into altering my consciousness, pot was the most logical drug to = take=20 because, after all, it was non-addicting and much less toxic than = alcohol=20 and nicotine. However, because of perhaps a pre-disposition = towards=20 addiction as well as an undiagnosed mental disorder, pot became = something=20 I had to have. I was always high, smoked all day, stole from my = folks to=20 cop a nickle bag and was totally unwilling to see how my initial = impulse=20 to lead an alternative lifestyle and stick it to the squares had = turned=20 into a full blown addiction.
I want to make it clear that my=20 experience has been just that-my experience. I'm aware there are = many=20 users of marijuana that haven't and won't experience the = deleterious=20 effects that I have. I don't want to come off as a former drug = addict=20 who's now on a secular evangelical crusade to save todays' youth = from the=20 evils of the wicked weed. I do want to state how important it is = when=20 discussing this that one neither has to be totally for or totally = against=20 the issue of legalization. I think our society is still ruled from = its=20 puritanical roots and most of the deviancy that's created is a = reaction to=20 this suppresion of our basic desires. If we began to move towards = a more=20 tolerant reality, than the efficacy of legalizing marijuana usage = would=20 become apparent. What might also become apparent is the need to = have=20 rehabilitation on demand instead of an overcrowded prison system = which is=20 draining the very resources we need to create such a system. =
Anyway,=20 I've been in recovery from active addiction for 4 years and change = and=20 would love to hear what you folks think about this.

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=C2=BB=20 RE: I think you are barking up the wrong tree. Posted by: jimidee
=C2=BB=20 RE: I think you are barking up the wrong tree. Posted by: bobbyw
It all about the money. $$$$
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Posted by: lc on Sep 10, = 2007 4:52=20 AM   
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The Partnership for a Drug = Free=20 America is majority funded by the Alcohol, Tobacco and = Prescription Drug=20 Industries. Why? Because they would have to compete with God's = Green Herb=20 and they know from the hippie 60's that when given a choice, most = people=20 smoke God's Green Herb and only use alcohol moderately instead of = getting=20 drunk. The Green Herb is so much better to smoke than tobacco = there is no=20 question Big Tobacco has never supported pot smokers right to = smoke The=20 Green Herb.
Most important of all, marijuana can not be = patented. It=20 is the safest therapeutic drug available and a major competitive = threat to=20 pills that kill while helping at best only 25% of the people who = take=20 pills. That is why doctors prescribe variations of different drugs = because=20 each version's efficacy is limited to so few people. Marijuana = never=20 killed anyone in all of recorded history. Aspirin kills 100 or = more a=20 year. There is no evil to God's Green Herb that God gave man twice = in the=20 6 days of creation and Noah was specially given The Green Herb = after the=20 Flood. Linen is mentioned over 100 times in the Bible. Hemp makes = the best=20 linen and hemp is what was used by Jesus for his clothing. But = today=20 historians try to tell us the linen is made solely from flax. = Wrong.=20 Revisionist history. The Mummies all have traces of hashish in = them. The=20 Kings and Pharos were all stoners.
IM
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=C2=BB=20 RE: Where is the source of you info? Posted by:=20 jimidee
=C2=BB=20 RE: The same place he keeps his stash... up his ass. Posted by: xbj
=C2=BB=20 RE: The same place he keeps his stash... up his ass. Posted by: panama420
=C2=BB=20 RE: The same place he keeps his stash... up his ass. Posted by: xbj
how to legalize marijuana
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Posted by: mr.E on Sep = 27, 2007=20 11:44 AM   
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what if everyone stood up = to the=20 bullshit and started smoking it blatantly and freely in public. = i'm=20 serious about this, if you believe in your heart that it's not = wrong, then=20 why not? they cant arrest everyone. if millions of people started = smoking=20 without fear then theres nothing the fascist pigs could do about = it. power=20 to the people

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